EP 37 | COREY HICKS GOES FOR OLYMPIC GOLD & FINDS HIS PURPOSE
Episode Summary
Starting an athletic journey can change your life around.
This happened to today’s guest, Dr. Corey Hicks! Corey reflects on one specific experience he had in 1993 when he thought everything was lost and it made him realize his full potential. He also shares his journey into athletics through school and college, and how he became an Olympic Hopeful. He found in teaching a safe space in which to grow himself back together. After teaching kids that were on their way to being school dropouts, coach Corey surfaced from the ashes. He found his purpose in helping people find theirs.
Visit Corey’s website to learn more about his books and his coaching business.
About the Guest - Corey Hicks
Dr. Corey Hicks is a speaker, Corporate Trainer, Author, and a 20+ year Pharmaceutical Professional. As a former All-American Decathlon athlete turned biotech Medical Director, with over 23 years as a successful motivational speaker, Dr. Hicks has inspired thousands, nationally and internationally. Dr. Hicks provides a range of training services, from Health and Wellness, Leadership, Stress Management, Emotional Intelligence, and Self Empowerment.
Dr. Corey Hicks is a former three-time NCAA All America Decathlete in the sport of Track and Field, A former 1996 Olympic Hopeful, A two-time Author, 2019 BRAG Magazine Influencer of The Season, and 2020 Global Motivation Award Recipient. Dr. Corey Hicks holds a BA in Education from Kentucky State University, an MA in Health Science from Concordia University, Irvine California, and Ph.D. in Health and Human Performance from Concordia University Chicago, River Forest. He is also a member of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Incorporated, and the Founder and CEO of the Three V’s LLC.
Key Take-Aways
Don’t take things for granted, keep training and getting better at everything that you do.
One should always do things all in or nothing at all.
It’s important to have time to take care of yourself physically, emotionally, and mentally.
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Kevin Hines:
My name is Kevin Hines. I jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. I believe that I had to die, but I lived. Today, I travel the world with my lovely wife, Margaret, sharing stories of people who have triumphed over incredible adversity. Now, we help people be here tomorrow. Welcome to the HINESIGHTS podcast.
Kevin Hines:
What is cracking, Hope Nation? It is your friendly neighborhood, Kevin Hines. Today I am joined by a man I look up to, a man who is an inspiration to all, his name is Dr. Corey Hicks, he is a speaker, a corporate trainer, and author, and a 20-year pharmaceutical professional, he's a former all-American decathlon athlete turned biotech, medical director, and has over twenty-three years of successful experience motivational speaking. Dr. Hicks has inspired thousands nationally and internationally, and he certainly inspires me and I know he will inspire you. Not to mention, he's a three-time NCAA all-American decathlete, in a two-sport of track and field. Former 1996 Olympic hopeful, a two-time author, and the 2009 Kentucky State University Sports Hall of Fame inductee. Ladies and gentlemen, do me a favor and give a warm welcome to the one and the only and the great Dr. Corey Hicks. Dr. Hicks, great to see you.
Corey Hicks:
Thank you. Thank you. I greatly appreciate it. I'm excited to be on your podcast today, so I greatly appreciate the, for you inviting me to come on the show.
Kevin Hines:
Well, we are lucky to have you, my friend, that's for sure, Doc, as they say in the comic book world, tell me a bit about your origin story. Where are you from?
Corey Hicks:
So, I'm originally from Chattanooga, Tennessee, so it's probably roughly right around 90 miles north of Atlanta, and I was born and raised in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And it's a beautiful place. I call it a miniature Colorado Springs because it sits in a valley surrounded by the Lookout Mountain, so it's beautiful.
Kevin Hines:
And what was your childhood like? Can you tell me a bit more about your, your upbringing?
Corey Hicks:
Yeah. So I had I have a total, I have twin sisters and I have an older brother, believe it or not, so, and we had a great childhood. I mean, I grew up in East Dale community or it's called Foxwood Heights, and it was great. I mean, but it was competitive, it was challenging, I grew up in the ghetto city and growing up in the ghetto city comes with, you know, you have all kinds of challenges and obstacles and adversities that you have to overcome. But it was great and really, truly molded me and made me into the person that I was. My father, he worked for a foundry for over 50 years, and so I got my work ethic from my father. And my mother, she worked for this company called Cutter's Laboratory, so she worked there for a while until they closed down. And then, you know, she took all the work elsewhere. But my father, he was pretty much the person that he stayed in the same position for 45/50-plus years. So when you talk about the work of example and just hard work working 15-16 hours, a lot of that came and my mother too, I just got, I got my grit from my mother. So And my mother was very stern, she said what she said and meant what she meant, and she certainly was a disciplinarian, so.
Kevin Hines:
We know that you were an incredible athlete through and through, and your athletic career in a sense started when you just doing some tumbling with your friends.
Corey Hicks:
That's right.
Kevin Hines:
So tell us about where your athletic career started and how it changed your life forever.
Kevin Hines:
So it's interesting, you know, we used to, in my neighborhood, I mean, we would have what I call stunt tumblin', so we would take these tractor inner tubes, the inside of the inner tubes, and we would blow them on these tractor tires and we would find mattresses and we would drag mattresses all around the neighborhoods and we would just battle each other. I mean, and again, that's where I learned how to really, I guess, a lot of the athleticism and everything that I have came from there, you know, from doing somersaults, back tucks, jumping on the trampoline, and being bike riding. I lived right on the bottom of the Missionary Ridge, where the Civil War was fought. So my neighborhood was very .... So it was nothing to go running miles within the neighborhood, playing around as kids. But a lot of that really and truly helped me with the tumbling. So once I finally started playing sports in terms of football, track and field, basketball, a lot of people knew me for being able to jump out of the gym. When I went to the Olympic Training Center, initially back in the 1993, I tested out at fifty-one inch vertical, I had one of the highest verticals that had ever come through the Olympic Training Center, so it was, put it this way the tumbling really and truly set a phenomenal foundation that I had no clue until I got older of how it really put me in a position to be successful.
Kevin Hines:
That's amazing. That's phenomenal. What sports did you love most in high school?
Corey Hicks:
Believe it or not, football, I was phenomenal in football. I was really good in football and track was something that I just so happened to stumble into. Everybody knew that I was going to go to college and play football, I was a wide receiver and I was a pass-rushing defensive end. In my senior year I had 20 quarterback sets and one year. So yeah, I was, I was really good, you know, as a just explosive off of the line as a pass rusher. And again, I was great as a receiver, but football was my passion, I have played football since I was seven years old and track and field was something that, I never even ran track in the summer, a lot of people used to do the summer track programs, I never did. The only time I ran track was when, during the school year, so I really and truly didn't see it as, as the way I saw football in terms of passion and love. But it's just something that I stumbled into and I was really good at it, so.
Kevin Hines:
When you get to college and you're in track and field and you're, you're engaging in that. What does that feel like? What did that look like to you? And what were the next few years like?
Corey Hicks:
It was unbelievable. I was, I was a junior college all-American, so initially I was at Neosho County Community College and it was great. And that really, truly set me up for when I got to Kentucky State University and, you know, a person like me, I was naturally gifted. So the difference between, like I say, high school and college is that everybody, got a lot of people that are on scholarship and everybody is great. So the same work ethic that you, when you was in high school, you had to be different as you step it up to another level. And I never forget again, I was an all-American in junior college. Then came the Kentucky state, and I remember I think it was 1993, was the only year that I did not get all-American and I was upset. Why? Because I took a lot of things for granted. I didn't train as hard as I could have trained and I was on the bubble, I was on a provisional bubble so you can qualify automaticly, meaning you have an automatic standard that you hit and you automatically make it to the NCAA championships or you're on the provisional, meaning they take a certain amount of automatic qualifiers and then they may take three or four provisional meaning you're right in the bubble. So I never forget, I missed it and I was walking back and that probably was one of the darkest times I ever had. I even had a priest stop me in the airport and said, son, do you have anything to smile about? And that's just, I guess, to discuss on my face. But I said I made a commitment to myself then and I said, I will never place myself in a position like this again. And my work ethic since then was impeccable. You know, it taught me a lesson, but I guess they see a ball lesson as a taught lesson, so.
Kevin Hines:
Did what that priest say to you in the, in the airport? Did it? Did it help in any way? Did it make any impact on you at the moment or were you too far gone?
Corey Hicks:
Well, the fact that I remember it now, it did have, you know, because I just didn't want to smile about nothing. And I guess the look that I had on my face says it all or said it all. So when he saw me at the time. And, you know, sometimes you're just pissed off, really, you don't even want to have a conversation, but it always set with me and I never forgot what he's said. The fact that, I guess, I don't know, the look I had in my face when he said, do you have anything to smile about? And I took a no, because he didn't understand, he didn't know that what I had went through. But that really and truly made me grow as a person is stretching. And it made, you know, and they let me see that whatever I want to do, you can't do it half heartedly, you got to one 110 percent effort, regardless of whether or not you're naturally talented because hard work beats talent when talent won't work. So I never forgot that.
Kevin Hines:
My dad always used to say hard work, Kevin, because nothing good ever came with that.
Corey Hicks:
Yeah, that's right.
Kevin Hines:
Yeah. But it's interesting about what that priest said, because the little is that moment was, as small as that moment was, you know, usually people walk by people who are angry looking and they just keep walking.
Corey Hicks:
That's right.
Kevin Hines:
And he said something, you can correlate that or liken it to, what I personally experienced, where I just when I attempted to take my life because of depression and mental illness, by the way, that is 98 percent fatal, I survived what I did, and all I wanted before I attempted was for one person to look at me and say, are you OK? And in a matter of speaking, he said that without saying, so it's fascinating that he caught you at that moment. Not to say you were depressed or anything, but I'm just, you know, connecting the two dots there.
Corey Hicks:
You're right. You know, you never know what a person is going through and the fact that he even took time out to even acknowledge me and ask me that, you know, again, it resonated, and that's how many years, it was 1993, and I never forgot the fact that he said it, is still is implanted in my mind, so, yeah, that's good.
Kevin Hines:
There are a few moments in our lives that we can correlate that make that kind of an impact because of what one person says. And in a fleeting moment, we can count them, probably on one hand. Tell our audience the story of you becoming an Olympic hopeful and what that was like.
Corey Hicks:
So I'm excited. It had to be one of the most unbelievable experiences I'd ever had or experienced in my collegiate year. In 1993 was when I first met this gentleman, Brooks Johnson, he was one of the top Olympic coaches in the country, well respected and he was coaching at Cal Poly. So at the National Championship, I met him for the first time and he saw me after I competed and I made all-American, but I think I made him the top eight student, do what I wanted to do, but he saw me, he said, you know what? You're the truth. He said, get your degree and I'm going to bring you out to California to train for the Olympics because again, he had one of the areas of the teams, in Olympic teams out in what we call the Central Coast Track Club that he was training, so I thought he was just telling me that to make me feel good. But in 1994, we came back again and I was again winning the NCAA Championship by 300 points, my pole vault pose was crushed, I was devastated, I lost two hundred and seventy five points going into the fifteen hundred and then I end up getting nudged out because I was just so dehydrated and depleted. So I end up getting third place and he came back to me again and he said, you were true. He said, I want you to come out and train with me. But at that time I was like, well, you know, we're so good, I wanted to end my college career, I wanted to be the national champion, so now I'm just going to focus on school. I mean, focus on being a school teacher because I had already accepted a position down in Broward County as a kindergarten teacher, so I ended up leaving going down to Broward County, I was down there for maybe three weeks and I got the phone call from Brooks Johnson and I was like, wow, I'm teaching them. So he had reached out to a mutual friend of ours, Dr. Tim Gibson, and he told them that he was like, hey, I want Corey to come out and train. So I was like, I don't know how I'm going to do this, but a dear friend of mine, she's passed away since then, but a friend of the family, she said, Corey, most people only have, gets once, a once in a lifetime opportunity to do that, you have to do it. So I was like, you sure? So I took a sabbatical from my job at that time, you know, I was, I was married and I was like, you know what? I'm just, I'm going to walk away and leave. You know, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I may never get the chance to do that, but me making that decision, Kevin, was the beginning of the rest of my life and the experiences I had, the things that I learned, my willingness to be stressed, because when you go out there, sometimes you go out there thinking you know everything and then you're around all these Olympians and these people are brilliant, great and you're just like a sponge and you absorb it. But the beauty of it is, is that you have to pour everything out that you think you know, and be willing to absorb from folks who are much better than you at what they do and win the decathlon, because it's 10 events, you have the opportunity to work with the best of the best in each event and each sport, so I was just like a sponge and I learned so much and it was I mean, it was unbelievable, just the family environment and the things that I learned every day on the track with Brooks Johnson was just like being, it was just like being in a college classroom because he was a philosopher, he told you different things, you know, post tetanus potentiation, the metabolic effect. Now here it is, I'm exercise medicine doctor and I'm reading all of these things and it's like, man, I didn't get that from a book, I remember learning it on the track with Brooks talking about post tetanus potentiation and metabolic effect. So for me, that was like a year or two years of grad school opposed to going back at that time and getting my master's degree, it was something that some people never get a chance to experience, but it really, truly impacted and changed my life.
Kevin Hines:
Phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. Well, I guess my next question would have to be, have you ever been in a position where you experienced any kind of serious depression? You mentioned that you had a hard time after, that one cracked me, but have you ever really experienced a clinical level?
Corey Hicks:
Yeah, I can tell you, the year that I was training and everything was going great, it was going the best that it could possibly go, and I was just going to tune up me. And this was at Cal State Stanislaus and we were just going out there. And you had Mike Smith at that time, who was the number one decathlete from Canada, Chris Huffins, who was the bronze medallist in the 96 Olympics, myself, we were just going up there for a tune up and three steps out of the race, the first event, the one hundred, three steps out of the block, Kevin, I tore my quadricep muscle right off my kneecap and here it is, everything that I worked hard for, everything, I mean, I was like, man, I finally made it. Now, remember prior, the year prior to that, my pole vault pose was crushed, so I lost the national championship and I was depressed from that, so I was like, I'm done with track and field. And then this opportunity presented, so here it is, I get right to the pinnacle, right to the point that I'm thinking, I'm making it, you know, Brooks is saying, you know, hey, listen, this is going to be a stellar year for you, and then I tear my quadriceps muscle? But at that time, I didn't realize that it was torn, and I just saw a substantial, like it was a dip in my leg like a camels dip. And you had a lot of the women heptathlete, man, I was hurting so bad I wanted to cry, but I was just trying to hold it in. But I noticed something was wrong because my leg kept getting bigger because it was hemorrhaging, because the muscle was torn.
Kevin Hines:
Oh no!
Corey Hicks:
Off the knee cap, so when they finally drained my leg, it was just black blood. It was maybe like 10 tubes, 10 balls that they drained from my leg. And then that's when you just saw the indentation. And then that's when it was really, really hit me. You know, I was like, wow, I didn't know how to respond, but what I started having, see, people knew nothing about panic attacks and anything like that, about anxiety, but I was waking up feeling like somebody had put a straw in my heart and was trying to blow it up like a balloon and I was waking up, grabbing my chest, so that happened. And then on the trails that I would run, we would normally do an easy two-mile run, all of a sudden, I found myself gasping for breath, maybe half a mile into the race, so I knew something was wrong. And then I ended up going to Palo Alto, to Stanford, and we did an MRI and come to find out I had a substantial tear. So after that, then emotionally, I got all of these things that are going through my mind. The only thing that helped me at that one time was that I had an opportunity to be the sports analyst for NBC Channel three News. So Chattanooga in Atlanta was very close to each other, and they had part of the Olympics just outside of Chattanooga, so Channel three reached out to me and say, hey, would you be interested in being a sports analyst breaking down all of the events? Would you be in the decathlon, decathlete? So that helped, at that time really, truly ease my pain, not the fact, you know, not to take in consideration my mother was going through cancer, at that time. My mother was in stage three breast cancer, she was just going through chemotherapy treatment, she was coming in, she had lost all her hair and she was saying, I'm tired of it, I'm just going to give up. So I'm battling all of these things, trying to keep it together. And at that time, man, Xanax was my friend, that was my best friend, that's the only way I could cope. At first, I just got to the point what I was taking a piece of it, and then it got to the point that I had to take just, you know, a whole one just to function during the day. And it just, it wasn't me. I was living in a fall, Kevin, and I was, you know, there's a saying say you can't be both pitiful and powerful at the same body, but once the Olympics is over with, I just kept reflecting back on everything that I had gone through, and I just like, look, I got to get myself together. So I made a decision, at that time, I told my mom, I said, listen, I love you, but you're going through what you're going through. I said, it's hard for me to be here because I'm like an empath. I'm absorbing everything that you're going through, I'm internalizing along with the things that I'm going through and I need to go back to Florida in order to get myself situated. And she's like, how are you going to make it? She said, I didn't even have that much money, I had at that time, 300 dollars to my name and 225 dollars on a credit card. So I was like, listen, I took a sabbatical, they said they can't guarantee me a job, but I'm just going to go back down. So everything we had, we put it on a six and a half by 11 foot trailer and we went back down to South Florida and we're down there for the first week. It was a bus, you know, nothing. And we stayed at this little beach hotel for 25 dollars a night. And if it was two people, it was going to charge 50 dollars, and the only reason I got it, because I told them that I had been on the Olympic Hopeful team, that things that had happened, and so they gave me a discount. So between my, my wife at that time, hiding in a room, us eating soup and cereal and a delicacy was always McDonald's, you know, because we just didn't have the money. And lo and behold, the second week we was there, I had two interviews that was set up. The first one was for a kindergarten teacher that I went on to interview. Did well, got the position, but then they wanted me to go and interview for the second position that was for a fourth grade dropout prevention teacher. So our interview for that and the principal that was that, for the fourth grade dropout prevention position, told the other principal that I declined that other jobs. So it's like, man, listen, here it is, I'm at the lowest point in my life, I'm going through something, now you're going to put me in a room full of twenty-eight kids with behavior problems. But, but you know what? That turned out to be the best thing ever because they really and truly helped me to heal, Kevin. When I was going through, I was at my darkest moment, they love me regardless of whether or not I got hurt, whether or not I had the injury, they love me unconditional, they wanted to hear the stories, they wanted to hear about my experiences, and I guess God placed me into that position because it gave me an opportunity to heal. They was inner city kids that had been given up on, face with so many challenges, pre-primary level, meaning some of it was on a kindergarten reading level. But that year healed me, really and truly healed me. Probably I just share this story. The thing that I take from that is that I said, hey, listen, if you want them to look at you in a different manner, you've got to do something that's unconventional. So let's do a play. But this play, you got to learn all of your parts so you can learn rap songs, you can learn all of your parts. So I said, that's the only way we'll do it, I'm going to give everybody their part. Even one of my kids that spoke very little English and was on a pre-primary level, he was trying to ... them. The only thing he had to say was, God bless us everyone. So I was like, listen, everybody is doing it, everybody has a part, so they went home over the weekend, and lo and behold, they came back, Kevin, and they memorized everything. So every day from lunch, we would go and we would work on this play, and we would work on this play until almost Christmas came up. And when we put this play on, they shined. We made props in the room and it was the best experience, period. All of those kids that was in my classroom, 80 percent of them were mainstreamed back into the regular classroom setting. And to me, Kevin, even though I didn't have an opportunity to fulfill my dreams, that was the begining of coach Corey, the person who could pour into individuals who could take things that are travesy for me, you know, yeah, I didn't get a chance to make it to where I wanted to make it, but now I'm going to utilize my experiences to help push people into their purpose. And I think that's where the birth of what I do now started from. And again, that was one of the best experiences that really and truly helped to heal me. And I said, listen, I'm not taking another Xanax, if I got to do anything to get through today, I'm not taking it and I stepped away from it, I went cold turkey and I hadn't looked back since, and I was able to self talk my way through and heal myself through to being a person that I am, but I understand what it feels like to be depressed, to go through panic attacks and have anxiety disorders and things of that nature, I get it because I was there, and it's not fun, I can tell.
Kevin Hines:
An amazing part of your story, my friend. It's so nice to be sitting here learning so much more about you. This is just so hard, but fantastic. My next question, Dr. Hicks, body and mind is what matters most to you, this could be anything, you, think about the question in depth, what matters most to you and who matters most to you?
Corey Hicks:
Well, I'm a man of faith, so I really and truly believe, you know, God definitely is the head of my life. And you know, that matters again, and then the next thing will be my family, you know, my closest individuals to me. But the biggest thing I want to say, Kevin, is to living out my purpose, living out my vision, walking in my destiny, and that's inspiring, encouraging individuals, using the unacceptable as motivation, being able to breathe light and share calm, and be candid and share stories with individuals, how, hey, listen, I haven't always been perfect, I've made mistakes, I've gone through trials and tribulations, but I was able to overcome these and this is what I was able to do, and if I can do it, so can you. So again, I always say, when I leave this Earth, I want to leave empty, I don't want to leave with any gift, any talent that God has given me, I want to make sure that I exhaust everything so that he can say, well done, you faithful servant, and that's it. I just I live to, when I tell people to keep winning, you know, my tagline is, keep winning, anybody who follow me. I really, truly believe that. I want to see everybody win, I want to see everybody fulfill their destiny, their dreams and goals, and whatever I can do that's in my wheelhouse, that's a part of my purpose and my mission to help push those individuals in the direction they need to go. I just want to make sure that I can fulfill my obligation, so.
Kevin Hines:
Beautiful. How do you maintain mental balance, emotional wellness and your physical fitness?
Corey Hicks:
You got to take time for yourself. That's the key thing. You know, some people are a jack of all and master of none. And you know, I heard someone tell me this time they said that, OK, hey, if you want me to do something, I don't mind doing it, but what you want me to take off of my plate? So one of the things that I learned is just again having balance, having a quiet time to myself, being able to pull away, get away from social media sometimes, being able to have quiet time, being able to really and truly hear my thoughts clearly, you know, and sometimes it's tough doing that because we're being so much to everybody else, but you're not focusing on yourself. So that's kind of, you know, in a nutshell, how I do that, how I keep my balance.
Kevin Hines:
Beautiful. So what is exercise science for those who don't know, how is your career in exercise science broaden your horizons?
Corey Hicks:
So I'm glad you said that because I look at exercise science as the new exercise medicine, because people for so long we've talked about exercise as being something as voluntary as going jogging, but we never talk about the clinical benefits, we never talk about BDN, that brain derived neurotrophic factor and how your body, your brain produces these neurons every time you exercise. So any time you experience some type of trauma or damage to the brain, the brain can heal itself. I heard Dr. Gupta and he just wrote a book. Sanjay Gupta, who's with CNN and he just wrote a book, and he talks about how brilliant the mind is and the brain basically, every time you exercise and you work out, the brain lets the body know that it's still alive. So you have these endorphins again that are released every time you exercise that are good for mental focus that are also good for mood, that also helps to cut down on anxiety. There are so many clinical benefits that I can go in and talk for hours about it, but that's what I want people to see, you know, to understand that it's not about physical education, it's about exercise medicine. Because there are things, there are diseases and illnesses that you can reverse by just exercising, just taking proper nutrition, with antioxidants and things of that nature to really and truly improve your health. So, you know, that's what I would say about that to try to, to really, truly get the word out, to let people see that we're shifting from exercise science to exercise medicine because there are so many beneficial factors to it.
Kevin Hines:
That's fantastic, and I think everyone needs to know about that. If you want to find out articles you've written, best way is typing your name?
Corey Hicks:
Yes, you can go on my name and Google me or I have a website and my website is www.CoachCoreyHicks.com. So there I have a lot of articles posted, but there's quite a few things that I have that's currently out now, and I have some other things that's in the making as well, so.
Kevin Hines:
Tell us about your two books that you have out.
Corey Hicks:
The first book is called Values, Vision and Versatility, and it talks about in order to be successful, you have to possess all three core foundational values, vision in order to see yourself in the moment of greatness and versatility to be a chameleon, being able to adapt and adjust to any and all situations, and if you take one of those out of the equation, you have unsustainable power, meaning a person can have values and you can have vision, but if you're not versatile, is going to be hard to adjust and adapt into this world. Or you can have versatility and you can have vision, but if you don't have core foundational values, your talents will take you places that your character can keep you. Or you can have values and versatility, but you still have to have a sense of vision. So that's the first book, and it's, it's a covert, I call it a spiritual covert book, and it's followed up by the second book, Vision of Inspiration. So it's 60 days of motivational quotes, and these are all of the quotes that really and truly just come from my heart. And as you can see on a day to day on a daily basis, I really and truly pour out my heart with these quotes and whatever I'm feeling, or if it's something that I've gone through, I just, you know, I like to keep people and courage by sharing inspiration and motivation on a daily basis, so.
Kevin Hines:
OK, my friend, we are almost at the end here. We're going to do the lightning round, so get ready. Lightning round, I'm going to say, I'm going to say one word and you give me one word answers back. I would say one word, you tell me the first thing that pops in your mind, and then we're going to wrap this bad boy up, OK?
Corey Hicks:
All right.
Kevin Hines:
It's wonderful talking to you, Corey. Just.
Corey Hicks:
Same.
Kevin Hines:
OK. Are you ready?
Corey Hicks:
Yeah, I guess I am.
Kevin Hines:
Three, two, one. The first word, truth.
Corey Hicks:
You know, passion of mind, is just that's true. There's passion and truth. So.
Kevin Hines:
Got it. Giving.
Corey Hicks:
Abundantly.
Kevin Hines:
Caring.
Corey Hicks:
All the time, you have to be.
Kevin Hines:
Connected.
Corey Hicks:
Just a family bond, family atmosphere, I think is important for individuals to really and truly stay connected to loved ones and people they care about.
Kevin Hines:
Kindness.
Corey Hicks:
We don't have enough of it in this world. We need more of it.
Kevin Hines:
Yeah, forgiving.
Corey Hicks:
It's a must. I think it's a must, you know, when we learn to forgive. You know, wow, can you imagine how beautiful this world could be when we stop holding grudges against each other? And, and again, we forgive the way, same way God forgave us. We forgive. You know, even our enemies, even people that have done us wrong. If we forgive them, man, this world will be a much better place.
Kevin Hines:
Hopeful.
Corey Hicks:
I'm hopeful that within the next 10 years that this world will begin to turn around, that people will become, people will become very kindhearted, forgiving, loving, caring, passionate about one another, very hopeful that that happen, so.
Kevin Hines:
And no more hate, right?
Corey Hicks:
No, no more hate at all.
Kevin Hines:
No more hate. Last few words, humble.
Corey Hicks:
You got to stay humble at all times. Being humble really and truly will put you in a position to be successful. Yeah, sometimes pride comes before the fall, so the more humble you are, the better you are to be able to listen to those things that supposed to come your way to push you in your purpose, so.
Kevin Hines:
Patience.
Corey Hicks:
You can't have enough of it. I think patience is king. You certainly have to have patience, so.
Kevin Hines:
Last word calm.
Corey Hicks:
Man, I don't really and truly, calm before the storm, calm before the storm, meaning sometimes in life we may battle, we may go through so many trials and tribulations, but we always have to take a step, just take a moment, just to calm ourselves, just to calm down your mental intellect, the things that are going down, the anxieties, everything that sometimes may be speaking negative towards a situation. We have to calm down, quiet down everything so we can really and truly hear our next move and our next step, so.
Kevin Hines:
Thank you, Dr. Corey Hicks. We are greatly appreciative of your time here tonight. I want to end by saying to everyone listening and learning from this podcast, whatever you do tonight, be kind, be calm, be caring, be forgiving, be connected, be hopeful, be humble, be patient, and tell your truth and be here tomorrow and every single day after that, you are valued, your loved, you are worthy, and you matter. Thank you, Dr. Hicks.
Corey Hicks:
Well, that's awesome. Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate you for inviting me. Thank you.
Kevin Hines:
Margaret and I love sharing stories of people who have triumphed over incredible adversity. For more content and inspiration, go to KevinHinesStory.com or visit us on all social media at KevinHinesStory or on youtube.com/KevinHines.
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